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A third theory he and Koetters have explored one that the Hoag boys mother ascribed to, according to Cambeletta is that some kind of cover-up was involved. They began to pray that nothing bad would happen to the boys. Volunteers are still trying to find the remains of the missing boys or at least their belongings. Joey [Hoag] was even a really big astronomer labeled himself as an amateur astronomer, if you look through his writings. This season will maybe mark the end of the search, Cambeletta said. The next theory is that the boys were kidnapped and possibly killed. "I've always been skeptical of this stuff," he said. Brothers Billy and Joey Hoag, ages 11 and 13, along with their friend Craig Dowell, 14, were last observed carrying shovels and flashlights around 5 p.m. May 10, 1967. The other two were written by John Wingate, a childhood friend of the boys. The Hoag boys had been punished for exploring it the day prior. According to one of the first versions, the children were buried alive when one of the cave tunnels collapsed, but as mentioned above, all possible tunnels of the nearest caves were checked by search crew and they did not find any traces of fresh collapses there. On May 10, 1967, Joey Hoag stepped off the school bus outside his parents' home in Hannibal's Southside neighborhood where he was greeted by his 16-year-old sister, Debra "DeDe" Hoag. Nearly 55 years ago, two young brothers and their friend gathered shovels and flashlights on a spring afternoon to explore a cave in their hometown of Hannibal, Missouri. Hart: Hannibal boys' disappearance brought back to life in book. But who could stop the curious children? These holes were sealed up a few days after the boys were last seen, despite orders from the mayor to keep them open. Be Nice. The families of Joey and Billy Hoag, 13 and 11 years of age, and 14-year Craig Dowell became worried when the boys failed to come home for dinner that evening. Details of Disappearance Joel disappeared with his brother, William Hoag, and a friend, Edwin "Craig" Dowell. The preliminary search was called off 10 days later, though another source said, The case of the Lost Boys of Hannibal has been the subject of at least three books. He and Joel were both eighth-graders at Hannibal Junior High at the time of their disappearances. "It was a pretty common thing to do," said Eric Dundon, the Managing Editor of the Hannibal Post- Courier who recently wrote an update on this story. Brothers Billy and Joey Hoag, ages 11 and 13, along with their friend Craig Dowell, 14, were last observed carrying shovels and flashlights around 5 p.m. May 10, 1967. Joel Wise Hoag was born on July 25, 1954 to mom Helen and dad Mike. They were planning to . But at some point, 15-year-old Tim Hoag and 16-year-old DeDe lost track of their younger brothers, who slipped out of the yard and headed for another adventure. We'd love to hear eyewitness Don't knowingly lie about anyone Brother Bill Dexheimer will officiate. And unfortunately, its leaning right now toward more of a true crime opportunistic killer than it is a caving.. There is one last point of speculation I want to go over and, again, I want to emphasize that this is pure speculation, not accusations. May 1967 - Hannibal, Missouri - three boys, brothers Bill Hoag, 11, and Joey Hoag, 13, and their friend Craig Dowell, 14, decided to go cave exploring. Hannibal Police checked all departing trains the day the boys left to make sure they werent attempting to run away or, worse yet, had been kidnapped. One of these caves is called the Murphys Cave. At the time the boys went missing, machines being used to search the caves could go as far down as 39 feet but the town mayor ordered them to go no further than 37 feet. He and William were not supposed to leave their yard, but they left anyway while their parents were out. The Hoag brothers were missing. But what quickly began as a neighborhood search expanded to a nation-wide effort. They were all reportedly spotted in and around Murphys Cave on the day they disappeared, but some of these sightings were not of all three of them, meaning they separated at some point. Concerned citizens suggested authorities even search the various islands dotting the Mississippi River. Henderson believes there were some questionable things going on behind the scenes. Notifications from this discussion will be disabled. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, I dont know if it was the first day or the second day, but I was having dreams and everything; about Billy and Joey. But, Within a few days, the boys still hadnt been found and people started to wonder if they really were in the cave. All rights reserved. Caves, like many other things in nature, are vast and often largely uncharted. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Motorists are always making their way along Route 79 at its origin, along the calm banks of Hannibal, and for many its just a daily routine. The late, great Roberto Clemente. DeDe was born Jan. 15, 1951, in Hannibal to Michael T. and Helen V. McCullough Hoag. Tim told his mother to call the Mark Twain Emergency Squad and she did. Donations are accepted but not expected; the site remains free-access to all. It should be noted that they were scrappy young fellows. accounts, the history behind an article. At the time the boys went missing, machines being used to search the caves could go as far down as 39 feet but the town mayor ordered them to go no further than 37 feet. Elsa Lemp Film To Premiere At Chase 100 Years After Her Untimely Death. Last updated June 3, 2012; details of disappearance updated. "If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't do that, you are wasting your time on this earth." He noticed that the boys were dragging a makeshift ladder of boards to lower themselves through the opening inside the cave. The sock wasnt dirty, so it obviously hadnt been in that place for a long time. They feared crashes and other disasters. More than likely they were buried. They regularly picked up lanterns and went down into the dark cave tunnels. Doesn't seem to be any record (names) in the DN database. A memorial service will be at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 20, 2018, at the James O'Donnell Funeral Home in Hannibal. Be Nice. When their parents returned home and asked where they were, DeDe had no idea. This wasn't the first time Gacy's name has come up in connection with the missing youths. Use the 'Report' link on . The boys shared a. If you forget it, you'll be able to recover it using your email address. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I walked outside and the girls were jumping rope. Hannibal, Missouri is a small town of about 17,000 people that sits along the famous Mississippi River. "But I decided just to lay it out and let people decide for themselves" if there's any merit to the story. Or I havent, totally. Debra "DeDe" Hoag, 67, of Hannibal, passed away at 5:37 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 15, 2018, at her home. They were spotted several more times around town between 4:40 and 5:15 sometimes together, sometimes separately. They were planning to . The belief is they went into a cave to explore. Lost Boys of Hannibal on Apple Podcasts 44 episodes This Podcast sets out to solve one of Hannibal Missouri's biggest mystery, The Lost boys of Hannibal Missouri snd the events surrounding their disappearance in 1967. Their parents, who were back from the meat market, said they werent there, but that if their friend saw him to tell them to hurry home. DeDe Hoag believes her brothers and Craig Dowell may have gotten trapped in one of these holes and accidentally buried after they were sealed. Youre going to have to have proof, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Henderson said. Nonetheless, this tight-knit community came together to find the lost boys. "For 52 years, the consensus has been that the three Hannibal boys were lost in a calamitous collapse inside the cave," Wingate said. So what do you think of this case? "That was the start of it. Missouri's recreational marijuana law is in full effect in area, Continental Cement employees begin strike early Wednesday morning, Hannibal junior Cody Culp places second in state, Quintet of Hannibal wrestlers move on to Saturday at state meet. But these searches, just like the ones in the caves, didnt lead to much. Authorities checked it to see if the Hoag brothers or Craig were there, but they didn't find anything. This is the name that will be displayed next to your photo for comments, blog posts, and more. Henderson found it odd that Billy wasnt there. As he further explored the possibility of Gacy's involvement, Wingate kept finding other connections. However, on May 10, the three went to the same cave again, using the moment Hougs parents were in the store to shop. Wingate is scheduled to sign copies of his new book from 6 to 8 p.m. Aug. 2, at Quincy Books and Toys, 3800 Broadway, and will sign books and give a presentation from 2 to 4 p.m. Aug. 3, at the Mark Twain Museum in Hannibal. 2022 by Mary Hallberg, Proudly created with Wix.com. Its possible, but its not probable., A memorial atop Lovers Leap has since been placed to honor the memory of the boys and the search crews. The Hoag brothers and Craig Dowell were never found. Before Mom left, she hollered at Tim. No. They left anyway while their parents were out. Altogether, over 200 cave explorers, both professional experts and amateur enthusiasts, searched through Murphys Cave, mapping it as they went. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Yet they were reportedly sighted near Murphys Cave as late as 5:15, likely with dirty shoes and clothes that they would have then had to go home and clean up. In 2006, construction crews discovered an entrance to the Murphys Cave system while building a new elementary school along Highway 79. HANNIBAL, Mo. Greg Henderson was one of the neighborhood boys invited to come along. Submitting this form below will send a message to your email with a link to change your password. Visitation will be from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Tuesday at the James O'Donnell Funeral Home. Or were they met with a sinister fate?" The Charley Project is NOT a registered non-profit organization and any donations will NOT be tax-deductible. But, as children often do, they didnt listen. High 59F. In the US state of Missouri, one of the local attractions is a vast network of caves that have thousands of passages, both above and below ground. We dont know where theyre at. A memorial marker for the boys has been placed in the vicinity of the cave. When that time hit the first night is when she really started to come unglued. They even summoned a few psychics who claimed they could feel the place where the children had disappeared. That day, the construction work resulted in a cave-in at Murphys Cave. Both boys were adventurous and loved exploring the area around their home with their many young neighbors and classmates. In 1967, the cave was close to the construction site of Highway 79. Online condolences may be made and video tribute may be viewed at www.jamesodonnellfuneralhome.com. The Lost Boys of Hannibal*** was released in 2017 and Souls Speak*** in 2019. Was this just a case of kids being irresponsible, as kids often are? He was into astrology and he was more grounded. The last theory is that the boys didnt actually all go missing at once. This was the latest reported sighting of the boys; after 5:15, all traces of them were lost. DeDe was born January 15, 1951, in Hannibal, Missouri to Michael T. and Helen V. McCullough Hoag. Did they separate and go missing in multiple different ways, in two or even three tragic coincidences? One person, who grew up in Hannibal and knew the Hoags, penned a book alleging psychics believe notorious killer John Wayne Gacy, whose victims include at least 33 boys and young men, murdered the Hoags and Dowell. When the parents of the Hoag brothers returned from the store and saw that their children had disappeared, they became very angry and intended to give them a good lesson. Visitation will be from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Tuesday at the James O'Donnell Funeral Home. Get an email notification whenever someone contributes to the discussion. Partly cloudy skies. 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Sister to the missing Hoag boys Billy and Joey, Denise Hoag, and daughter Candace Hoag sit down with Chris and Franki to discuss Charles Stewart, but before that . Appears these boys has still not been found.. "Hey Beavis, we need a chick that doesn't suck. Because of the circumstances, authorities theorized the three boys were trapped inside the cave when it collapsed and weren't able to get out. Obituary: Debra 'DeDe' Hoag, 67, of Hannibal, Online condolences may be made and video tribute may be viewed at. Louis on the Air brings you the stories of St. Louis and the people who live, work and create in our region. Billy and Joey, as they were more commonly called, also had nine other siblings. Transcripts for St. Louis Public Radio produced programming are available upon request for individuals with hearing impairments. All three suggested they had similar visions that Gacy was to blame for the disappearance and deaths of the Hannibal boys. Billy has red hair and blue eyes and a scar under his right arm. When it was dark, the Hoags went to their neighbors and someone told them that they had seen the Hoag brothers and young Dole near the Murphy Cave. No human remains have been found during this exploration. They were allegedly chased away by construction workers. A plaque and stone monument sits atop the Lovers Leap park overlooking the Mississippi River to honor the memory of the three boys. I know guys who went looking for them, and guys would go in far enough and sit down and wait for a while, he said. In May 1967, the trio left home to explore caves in Hannibal, Missouri. They were just saying help, help, help. That claim, like so many others, would bear no fruit and the preliminary search would be called off 10 days after the disappearance. Im having a big time still struggling with it. Investigators searched trains that had left Hannibal around the time the boys were last seen, perhaps wondering if they had been snatched without anyone noticing. This large-scale search of the missing went on for 10 consecutive days and was among the most popular searches in Missouris history. Dont leave the yard, she told him. We had a ladder, homemade ladder we made. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.. In addition to police, groups like the Mark Twain Emergency Squad and National Speleological Society were brought in to help look for the boys. But, so far, they havent found anything , Other theories say that the children fled to another city or were abducted. Submitting this form below will send a message to your email with a link to change your password. Advertisement. Theyre not sleeping, Im not sleeping till they get home. Choose wisely! It was a Tuesday night when Billy and Joey came back home covered in mud. You have permission to edit this article. Choose wisely! In 2015, Hannibal Police Department Lieutenant John Zerbonia said case would stay open, but there probably wouldnt be any more searches. One source said the last known sighting of the boys was by a teenage girl. The first theory is that they ran away, but this isnt very likely. Its most well known for being the childhood home of author Mark Twain, who often wrote stories about young boys going on adventures. The parents found out when they saw the characteristic reddish dirt on their clothes. This theory contends Gacy encountered the Hannibal boys near the caves, offered them a ride home, then drove them to a nearby wooded area and assaulted, killed and buried them. The Hoag brothers were missing. One of the psychics even suggested that Gacy was involved in the disappearance and deaths of two Monroe City boys -- John Wagner in February 1968 and Rickey Enochs in June 1977. He eventually showed and couldnt account for his younger brothers, so Helen sent him and DeDe out in the neighborhood to find them. The memory of this strange disappearance of these three boys is still commented on in Hannibal. Or did someone perhaps spot three young boys traveling alone and see a crime of opportunity? She said keep an eye on the boys (Billy and Joey) because of what they had done the night before, DeDe said. The boys parents, who owned a popular tavern in town, left for a meat market around 4 pm, giving their older children orders to make sure Billy and Joey didnt leave the house. Wingate's book, "Lost Boys of Hannibal: Inside America's Largest Cave Search," noted that the boys -- Edwin Craig Dowell, 14, and brothers Joel Hoag, 13, and Billy Hoag, 11 -- were never found despite month-long search efforts. "In all three cases, we'd find ourselves standing at the same location on three different days," he said. Despite the workers warning, the boys went back the next with two of their friends. The Hoag brothers and the Dowell boy were last seen by Lynn Strube, 14, of 405 Smith, and John Janes, 13, 1125 Sierra, Wednesday . Where are you going, DeDe asked Billy. Because the road construction work going on at the time had resulted in a cave-in at Murphys Cave on the day the three boys went missing, the most prominent theory of their demise is that they became stuck in the cave after some kind of blasting occurred. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. I really have a hard time dealing with it. The Hoags surviving sister has wondered if there was a cover-up involving the construction company, which she said had workers routinely blasting in the area and did not put up signs or caution tape around any of the various cave openings caused by their work. Memorial contributions may be made to Community Loving Care Hospice. 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