I have a lot of ground to cover I may hit all the turf around the trees that they like and as much other area as I can cover and then hope that they spread on their own from there. Ken W Wilson pollinator Posts: 1187 Location: Nevada, Mo 64772 I've heard quite a bit about Meader Pers., has anyone had any experience w/ a Nakita's Gift? It didn't dry out, so I was puzzled as I've planted a number of persimmons and none of the others ever did that. All went well with a mild winter here in central Virginia and it leafed out in March with our mild temperatures. I hope that doesnt offend anyone, and maybe soneone with experience in Japanese language and culture can clarify. It is definitely not true that you need a pollinator for American persimmons to fruit, only to produce seeds. Monday Sunday: 10:00am-5:00pm, Office Hours: Its much earlier this year. Please take into consideration your transit times before placing an order, using FedEx Ground's delivery estimation chart below. Both of our varieties crack open when they fall off the tree and quickly become ant food. Now Im planning to add Chocolate and CoffeeCake at the other end of my 2 acre property, because Id rather they pollinate each other but not Nikitas gift or Saijo. In the mountains of the Western Caucasus, Caucasian persimmon (Diospyros lotus L.) grows, 2n = 30, which is most likely an introduced species in old Circassian gardens. I hate to say it, but I have had zero motivation to get out in the yard and do all the things that need doing. Here is what you need to know about growing conditions: Zones: 5-9 For American varieties. I Protected them the same way with the Nikita's Gift. One of the top plant introductions to date, Nikitas Gift is a Ukrainian cross of American persimmon and Asian persimmon created at Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine. Mine are seedless sometimes but usually have some small seeds. Saijo is considered by some to be the best flavored. Thank you for those Daniel. Here is that Yates tree from the original post, this year. I've ordered Nikitas Gift, Edible Landscaping Nursery is great. (And to avoid confusion, can you please provide the pot's inner dimensions? Now, in my night-time check Ill find maybe 2 on it, so Im making some progress, but there isnt a leaf left on it that hasnt been chewed on. I protected this baby by wrapped it with a large tarp from home depot and stuffed it with leafs in November. So no pollinator would be best. 'Fuyu' and its large hybrid 'Jiro' will grow in zones 6-10. At our retail garden center we offer seasonal fruit tasting, preservation and plant care classes as well as hold events in the community. "Trade gallons" are really confusing.) so being put in a box for a few days tends to upset her. The 4" long acorn shaped fruit is deep orange when ripe and very sweet and flavorful. Thank you for your nice comments. that finally has some height, maybe bloom next year, and starts of Coffee Cake and Chocolate that I planted, quite a distance away from the ones that I want to remain seedless. Now this plant is considered autochthonous in the subtropics of the Western Caucasus, although not long ago, 150 years ago, it was met by botanists within the boundaries of the Circassian gardens and auls, which have now become a forest. My next challenge will be Chocolate (Tsurunoko?) I have 4 non-astringent Asian Persimmons. Options: Select size/type. NIKITA'S GIFT. Im hoping I dont have to build a protective tent over these trees every year into perpetuity. Morton is not far from me in SW Washington, so I thought my experience would be similar. Flow cytometer analysis showed that only four of the selected cultivars were from the tetraploid race: Ennis Seedless, Weeping, Sugar Bear, and SFES; the remaining cultivars were from the hexaploid race. Bryant RedHawk wrote:Watch the fruit color change, a ripe persimmon will be purplish (this is when they fall to the ground and usually break open) and a just right for picking color is when they go orange with a tinge of the purple color starting to show up. I think in many ways, the home orchardist is the Research Center for growing these less typical fruits in the home orchard, especially in less typical climates. And, after dinner Brie pipped up that she had some NIKITA'S GIFT persimmons to share. Nikitas Gift persimmon is a unique hybrid of Asian and American persimmons, developed in the Ukraine. I think wild persimmons taste better picked up after they fall but so does all the wildlife. In the same yard, Ichi Ki Kei Jiro (Asian) also produces lots of seedless fruit -- no seeds at all. Fruit Skin: Reddish-orange I've been pondering trying it here in ground. My Nikitas Gift and Saijo are on Diospyros lotus roots. Water regularly after planting, until tree is established. I have had great yields from a Meader persimmon for more than 10 years. It is self fertile. It has had some beetle damage to the leaves, but is in a different part of the yard with either less pressure or it possibly isnt as appealing to the insects. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree Diospyrus kaki x virginiana 'Nikita's Gift' As hardy as the American persimmon and as large as the Asian, Nikita's large crops of 2-1/2 inch, flatt. Personalized Gifts. An Asian variety that is deep orange in coloring and slightly elongated and rounded in shape. Those last two are in that first stage, of just surviving and putting down roots, and might shoot up next year if nature allows. Best with Chocolate for pollination. My only wish is that they had more to choose from as we would love to order from them again. If I don't, the Asian persimmon trees will die to the snow line. Asian Persimmon is is hardy to 0F. Naturally compact trees, Asian Persimmons rarely exceed 12ft. It produces smallish fruit for me. When I (later) brought to his attention Lee Reich's book, on the point of some cultivars being self-pollinating, he allowed that might be the case.In any event, last year I planted what I've come to believe to be a self-fertile American Persimmons by the name of Szukis (yes, a Lee Reich recommendation). I was told that persimmon drops fruit for the first few years so I wont expect fruit until year 4 or 5. I have Nikitas Gift, Rosseyanka, Saijo and Yates that have been in pots for going on three season. Hi Ram, i look forward to your review on Rojo brillante next year! It went on for a month or more when my research lead me to check the tree during the night. Asian Persimmon is not bothered by pests or disease and likes half day to full sun and well-drained soil. How warm outside to plant fig cuttings directly in-ground. We graft the Giombo persimmon onto native American persimmon . Looks beautiful mamuang. Do you know could there any difference in the NG that Cliff offers versus Raintree, One Green World, or Burnt Ridge? They are drier than the Nakitas Gift. It is ready to eat when soft and tender like a tomato. I'm not sure if that made the riper ones mushy or not but the first ones went from hard to mushy over night. Part of the question has to be, do you want one tree, and do you know how to graft? I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. Early Golden and its relatives, like Garretson and Killen, will probably sprout some male branches and will probably therefore be self-fruiting somewhere on the way to becoming 50 feet. There are many varieties that will survive Z5 but possibly not ripen there if the season is too short. Ive been hesitant to get Chocolate because of the seeds. Forum Options Posts only Topic titles only Posts and topic titles Tags only (single tag) Min search length: 3 characters / Max search length: 84 characters. There can be discussions on benefits of each but if you are worried about your grafted tree being 40 foot because on Virginiana it will not and will still be a smaller tree. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree comes from Russia and will survive extreme winter conditions. Mine really took off this summer, so hopefully more trees will fruit next year. It is hardier than any of the Asian persimmons we offer. Native cultivars include Nikita's Gift ( a native cross with Asian) and Magic Fountain. Register. I'm not sure how big N.G.would grow. 2020ONE GREEN WORLD. I ripped it out this spring finally. If you do, try to keep it or prune it as the central leader so it will be less likely to be dropped by the tree.John SPDX OR. The tast was great but no texture. I hope it tastes as good as the fruit looks in pictures. Just looking for some ideas and a little reassurance from folks with more experience with them. I had some the year before last that were perfect though. I just set it out this spring. FREE shipping. The first NIKITA'S GIFT persimmon I ate was a present. It was a very hot dry summer, I did not water them at all. This is the first year it has produced anything to speak of. Tree probably stunted with gravelly soil and is watered throughout summer. Persimmon Trees - Nikita's Gift (Astringent). Bearing Age:2-3 years after planting Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Trust God, but always tether your camel to this tiny ad. This astringent variety is considered the largest and best cooking quality persimmon. I dont post a lot but there arent a lot of people growing persimmons in the Pacific NW and I think the information might be helpful. And this tiny ad too! Im wondering if anyone has potted persimmons in zone 5? We are a retail garden center servicing our local community & currently not able to ship our products. The vine crops do need to be controlled or else they will take over the world and the Cornelian Cherries take forever to fruit but that's about all the work you're gonna do to grow them. Need a lot of trees? Mein Benutzererlebnis mit Cookies anpassen, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Growing Mangoes in northern California - My Mango Tree in Zone 10A. Start typing a member's name above and it will auto-complete. May be similar to the experience of the other poster here. Search. I have seen this before. We still cannot ship to some states and US territories based off the Agricultural Laws that may be in place. They are truly delicious. https://raintreenursery.com/sale/nikitas-gift-persimmon-d224 Apparently they dont mind Neem. However, I have not had many JB for the past 3 -4 years. Watch the fruit color change, a ripe persimmon will be purplish (this is when they fall to the ground and usually break open) and a just right for picking color is when they go orange with a tinge of the purple color starting to show up. It regrew new ones and all was well although no flowers. Nikita's Gift Persimmon. Please add it to your wishlist to be notified when it's available. Check out our nikita's gift persimmon tree selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. Also have a semi-dwarf apple tree & a dwarf nectarine, a little less carefree.I hope an American persimmon will round things out. Thanks Bear! One fruit developed this year and I surrounded it with a plastic bag to prevent the foxes from stealing it. At OGW we offer a diversity of food plants and their companions from around the world. Ripening Time:October Enter number. I picked the first one when it was just a little softer than hard. (5) $29.00. Taste: Sweet and flavorful The buds on NG are smaller and tighter, Im hoping shes just a little slower at starting back up. @Susu, that is about the height where my three others started bearing. This is true in my friends yard, too. Grafting American persimmons can be tricky , as they often lose limbs, and it is done at a much later date. Diospyrus Kaki Tecumseh is a small tree type Asian persimmon named and selected by Dr. Jim Shanks, U of MD. I'm going to try grafting and budding to the. But pretty care free. The upright self fertile tree is easy to grow and takes about a 12' circle of space. Persimmon trees are beautiful backyard additions with delicious fruit. Good luck with the persimmon trees! Wish List: Bass Favorite, Burgan Unk, CdDM, Maltese Beauty. My friend planted both Prok and Yates. Will now fertilize it as it survived our 105 deg F summers in east Sierra desert canyon at 4200' (Joshua Tree belt). Next I noticed large parts of the leaves being eaten but couldnt find any insects on the tree. One has nearly infinite room and is zone 6a (maybe even zone 5b) the other is in a downtown core microclimate closer to 7a with very limited space. They have no insect problems. If you like American Persimmons with bigger fruits and a nice taste are Prok and Yates. Persimmon trees need about 40 inches of water every year. This year 4 remain. Ive been looking into Milky Spore. A non-astringent variety that can be eaten while still firm. We were to take a few and let them sit on the counter for a week or so to ripen . On root stock you could expect to find it grafted on D. Lotus, D. Virginiana or on D. Kaki. Fruit ripens mid-October through mid-November. An Asian variety that is deep orange in coloring and slightly elongated and rounded in shape. I planted it immediately - and have a green thumb. in height. It's an astringent persimmon--tastier, sweeter, and juicier than most American persimmons. We cannot ship to Puerto Rico or international. The bright reddish-orange fruit is about 3" wide and somewhat flattened on top. Yes I battle them, well actually I just submit to them. Hmm, thanks Phil. Persimmon are not reliable true to seed and seedlings should not be labeled the cultivar name of the parent as they may or may not be similar. While only about 2 inches across they are just as tasty when fully ripe. All times above are in ranch (not your local) time. Don't know if it is non astringent yet; will probably be a few years before I know. I've had a lot of success fruiting Asian persimmon in pots, but I'm in zone 8b. I planted last year and grafted this spring. . They are mature and seem to handle all the damage fine, but they dont have the added stress of producing fruit. this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including Hello , can anyone recommend a nursery where I can buy a Nikitas, Location: Western WA (Zone 8B - temperate maritime), Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. At least in past Lotus seemingly has been used alot on west coast trees and Virginiana by eastern nursery. Its putting on zero growth and some of the branches (twigs really) from last year are dead (never leafed out). The glowing orbs of fruit hanging from the tree are a wonderful sight. Thanks for the really good feedback on this Phil. Ripens late season, reaches roughly 12-15 tall & is self-fertile. Wanting to do everything in the northern lower pennisula of Michigan, Fruit Trees and Berries that Grow Best in Your Area Naturally- Continental Climate Hardiness Zone 4. My new trees of Chocolate (Tsurunoko) and Coffee Cake (Nishimura Wase) are on D. virgiana, but all I can say so far is they survived this summer. Ive been watering adequately, pounded in some fertilizer spikes, and it gets adequate sun. Astringent fruits must be overly ripe to achieve sweetness and edibility. Havent had problems with japanese beetles on it although I have plum trees a few steps away that the beetles have been hitting so Id agree with whats been said in that regard. Meader is probably the most brittle of all the varieties, so it is a risk to grow it. It looked like caterpillar damage of some sort. I read in some websites Saijo means the very best one but the Japanese-English translator on line says it means Talented Woman. Nikita's Gift is not 50/50 it's 75 Kaki/25 Virginiana It's seed mother Rosseyanka is 50/50 crossed back to Kaki. We offer unique and rare fruit and nut trees, shrubs, and vines. Its superb flavor is the choice of connoisseurs. You could try to graft a female variety onto a male persimmon at say 10 feet or so, but it is rather experimental, as it may break off. Kiwi's, Cornelian Cherries, Pawpaws and Maypops all do fine with no spraying at all. Doesn't need a pollinizer. NG has a more spreading habit, compared to Saijo and Yates. 3yr American Persimmon Tree in a tree pot, Native Fruit Tree, Diospyros Virginiana. They just started pushing out a new round of growth not so much with the NG. I've eaten lots of american persimmons. I'm trying this out, but I wonder if I'm providing a large enough pot. Your trees are so beautiful. 2 Asian persimmons have started a second round of growth. Ive found that they prefer cherry and then plum leaves. 'Shogatsu' is similar to 'Hanogosho' in tree habit, however, more problems with fruit end splitting and leaf spots occur. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -. 0. Astringent until ripened off the tree and eaten when soft. However, Nikitas Gift is a hybrid of Asian and American species, developed and selected in Ukraine, so I thought, who knows? My persimmon tree, though young, is about 8 feet high. Many thanks! This page was generated at 08:56 AM. I think I let Nikitas Gift overproduce last year. They were slightly purple. Are they supposed to be? Yates already finished producing. Should we need some different varieties? If you are anything like me then you are probably feeling sick and tired of this cold, wet weather. It did not like something about my soil or climate. There is a mature ornamental cherry about 20 feet away from the NG. I planted a large NG persimmon early November of last year. Trees: Due to strict Agricultural Laws in place, we currently cannot ship to the following states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii. . Non-astringent fruits can be eaten firm for a crisp texture. A great quality fruit that ripens late season, reaches roughly 12-15 tall & is self-fertile. 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