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What about that sign board with numbers like 21 or 11? If the safeties have to make a bunch of tackles (see Stanford, Miami, Boise, Clemson), then the corners are on an island and at some point, even the best corners will get beat in man coverage. The singular thing that can derail their run defense is getting chewed up physically against Georgia Tech. Some of the biggies are game situation, down and distance, ball position, and offensive personnel. So, every player has to know exactly where to be, exactly what to do, and exactly where to go before running with reckless abandon into a full speed collision. ]~ .O}_JG7mn0 1.Wvn;m,Fv i>TFis endstream endobj 11 0 obj 433 endobj 17 0 obj << /Length 18 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream Foster's defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where. As mentioned earlier in this article, the coaches decided to make these adjustments because offenses had schemed some things to specifically attack Techs 8-man front base defense with more 3-4 wide receiver sets and more spread formations. "That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! Hopefully Logan will have improved his accuracy to be able to make them pay for it. Combining elements from each scheme is what gives the 4-2-5 its versatility. Gap fit means when the defensive player hits the assigned gap, he must hold that gap maintaining the proper leverage in order to get off a block and make a tackle. Hope that VT keeps getting playing making athletic DTs that can get off blocks and penetrate in interior gaps in order to take D to next level. When Frank Beamer coached under Bobby Ross, they ran the Wide Tackle 6, and he took that with him to VT. View All Discussions French on the Bench , "David doesn't even fart. Backer: The Backer (Tariq Edwards) lines at the same depth as the mike but in the guard tackle gap. Not adjusted to the offensive formation. The tackle will cross the face of the guard and the center, and fill the 2 gap, originally vacated by the Nose. The running back is supposed to take two strides playside, plant his playside leg (in this case the right leg) and select a weak spot where the defender has overrun the play. I think they were 6'2 or so and 270-280 lbs. From all of us at The Key Play, get off the bench and in the game. The transition from James Anderson to Brenden Hill without skipping a beat showed two things (1) the coaches know how to put different type players in a position to succeed and (2) while better defined to defend against todays offensive systems, the Whip still is a hybrid position. 1. I have a few questions: 1) With all the extra movement in the "radical stunts", do you see this as wearing down the front 7 more and possibly being the cause for some of the injuries, esp last year, (ex. If you have any questions, I will be sure to answer to answer them in the comments. A student manager then uses the sign board to communicate the personnel group to the players on the field. But the biggest thing is probably the QB ability to react quickly to the pressure (a key part of the Hokie D). Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. The wide tackle six and the gap defense were used by Foster specifically because they didn't have the athletes to play SEC style, line up our best athletes against yours, and beat you football. * 21+ (19+ CA-ONT) (18+ NH/WY). So, they would use multiple tight ends to the strong side, then motion one of those tight ends back to the whip side. He retained the terminology and many of the blitz schemes of the Attack Defense, and then moved the rover position back to that of a traditional strong safety. Bud Foster is the former longtime Virginia Tech Defensive Coordinator where he spent 33 seasons coaching. 2) In a one gap 4-3, the DL wants to get up field and make plays. Sometimes shifts and motion will force the defense to tip its hand. . Likewise, the End, Backer, Boundary Corner, and Rover always align toward the short side of the field. Basically, it requires two defensive tackles who can each command double teams. What VT plays most against pro-style teams is Inverted Cover 2 Robber, but the deep cover guys are the Cornerbacks, not the safeties. The Gap Defense is grounded in a simple concept. I think we have had these super talented CB's the past few years but what happens when somebody gets hurt and we have to go to the bench like when Hosley got hurt last year? Most teams go play side or bootleg with play action, but Clemson (in old 1930's single-wing style) would have the Tajh fake, then continue to waggle a step playside. How does pressure relate to coverage? Thoughts? What is a Cover-2 and how does it differ from a Cover-3? For that reason, some teams found success by running weak side out of those spread formations. Depending on the formation, Rover can pick up the #1 receiver short and the FS comes down on the slot, with the CB still in deep half-field coverage behind.Whip aligns himself several ways, so you need a good football player here. It's no secret that Tech uses a lot of "hybrid" type players. Registering for an account is free and easy. I am ready for some football. End: The End (J.R. Collins) will stunt to the 7 gap, maintaining contain on any reverse, bootleg, or play-action. The 6 comes from the switches called between the LBs and the backfield. Whip: The Whip (Kyle Fuller) lines up wide, but well to the inside of the slot. Also, stud 6'6 265 DE's who want to play in the NFL, not tie up linemen so linebackers make plays. As for tight ends, teams that play tight ends usually end up with the rover or free safety covering them. I love it anyway! Through the first half, Andre Ellington was averaging like 1.3 yards a carry with 23 yards total. You get what you get with Bud Foster, there isn't much grey area in his persona. Steeles downfall came against spread-it-out, fast-paced systems like West Virginias. This is particularly true when the Whip or Rover is aligned on a slot WR -- hell come hard on the blitz pretty often. .". Each player in the front 7 has a certain gap responsibility, but unlike other 4-3 and 3-4 base defenses, the defenders often stunt to a gap and hold their position rather than pursuit to the ball. At the snap, Jack Tyler reads a key that sends him flying through the one gap. His recruiting dropped off when it became apparent that players could be great in that system, but the fundamentals they acquire do not translate to the NFL. The Whip blitzes hard from the 7 gap to fly through the 5 gap space. Well, Hosley was disguising his true intention. It was a very clever scheme because it could be adjusted to a pass oriented defense by slipping the two outside linebackers (the Whip and Rover) into coverage as defensive backs. The Hopkins brothers, Maddy, and looking back at Barry Booker, Jonathan Lewis, and others all sort of fit that mold. '+,,-/4443.4444444444 Next week, we will examine some of the basic blitz packages that the Hokies use for passing down and distance situations. The defensive calls will be different on 2nd and three versus 3rd and nine. Will having a healthy and complete team be enough? Everyone, especially play side, must at least stalemate their blocker in their gap. To make that work, you still need to get pressure from the DL, and I think this has been one of VTs biggest issues on defense over the last few years. The 4-2-5 Defense Study (Softcover: 145 pages) . Charley Wiles communicates the front call to the defensive line (stunt calls, etc). VT couldn't stop the run against Stanford. The FS himself will play Robber over the very middle of the field and watches the eyes of the QB to take away intermediate routes, yet against the run hes a 9th man in the area to fill a gap. Actually Clemson's D is not going to be all that different than what it was last year except that Venable is simplifying it without all the checks and stuff. in the long run, if the giants dline continues to dominant with "defensive ends", i think it can be used to pitch to good dlineman. An 11 personnel group is one running back, one tight end, and three wide receivers. Note that with no receivers split to the boundary, the Rover will rotate up to the line of scrimmage and align as a linebacker on the boundary side. While the 8 man front may be gone, the blitz pressures and coverages remain imbedded in today's Hokie D. The "Field Strong" basically is a 4 man defensive line, two middle linebackers, and the whip linebacker playing outside as a hybrid linebacker/safety almost exclusively to the boundary side of the field. Rece Davis. Today, a look at some of the pass rush and blitz packages utilized in Bud Foster's Gap Defense As discussed in "A Look Back at the Hokie Wide Tackle Six Defense" , Virginia Tech rose to defensive dominance running an 8-man front which allowed the Hokies to blitz from multiple angles. #Scales4Heisman. I would argue we had bad match-ups of speed vs. speed. An example are the Virginia Tech teams of Frank Beamer and Justin Fuente, with Bud Foster serving as defensive coordinator under both. I saw that and knew we were in trouble. If the running back looks to go straight ahead, he will see the guard and tackle jammed up and look to cutback. Was a great move on moving the rover back in alignment based on the offenses being seen but thought the Rover always lined up on the strong side away from the Whip but your diagram indicates them lined on the same side. There is an extensive blitz package in VTs scheme. I'm pretty sure, if VT could land Hand or Brown, Foster would develop them into 1st Rd D-linemen, even in a gap fitting scheme. The free safety is responsible for coverage adjustments and making sure that everyone is lined up properly. You have heard the laundry list of coverage terms, but what do they mean? The Hokies switch between man and cover 3. The 46 defensive front. *:JZjz ? This "Field G" is mostly what Virginia Tech is in nowadays. "-John Blutarsky, Small, and generally stout defensive tackles certainly seem to be the Bud Foster model. I still worry about the whip (watching film of the Stanford game will do that to a guy) and Maddy and Marshall have to take the next step. It is mostly combined with Man coverage and is pretty heavy on stunts and exchanges between the DL and LBs. With two CBs outside you basically have 6 ways it can work without changing the call. Playing in a college system that emphasizes skillset diversity is actually a good thing. The 60-year-old Foster, who has been with the Hokies since 1987 and has served as defensive coordinator since 1995, is currently the longest-tenured assistant coach in the FBS. I don't know recall the plays that Taylor and JWG got hurt, so I am not really sure. 5yltM;6#D"A.+|F'g"##PBG Wi+5~ljx3!_YJ8a7p;[Bx$60FF8x\f@-. Jack Tyler can't cover a rock, so CBF adjusts his schemes and defensive calls to account for that. Since we have such a deep and talented DL do you foresee more base defense this year? If you play C2R, and the opposition sends the outside WRs deep, the CB must go with him, which takes away the deep help for everyone on one side of the defense, so that it basically ends up M2M. For this example, here is a pre-snap diagram of a likely defensive set against a 12 personnel group (one RB, two TEs, two WRs). However, what VT does is very different from TCU and here well showcase the fronts and coverages VT likes the most. d88$FQ &~g?Waj }4;{S=Gg``YoF2a2XCTH#?:]=e1sp=$3_ S??oB/r~u6n?o'tm{ iu e*g[3mcXX_ endstream endobj 7 0 obj 859 endobj 12 0 obj << /Length 13 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream Great write up French! Damn shame if you ask me. Instead of slanting as much (because his DL had a tendency to lose gap control and his backer couldn't figure out how to be in the correct place), Bud reverted back to shooting gaps. Great stuff as always French. (Please note, the Hokies may use letters or other terminology to identify each gap.). I'm sure our coaches cite James Anderson who transitioned from Whip to NFL LB, and Jason Worilds who played DE at Tech and was drafted as an OLB for the Steelers. TechSideline.com (a.k.a. Look at Florida under Urban Meyer. Ultimately, we will see Maddy and Derek Hopkins starting, with Marshall coming in for Maddy on most passing downs. We play three different packages: G, T u f f and FD/ST-G. Our G package is our base defense. A "Bear" front covers both OGs and the Center, making it an Odd front. Excellent Hokies like Xavier Adibi, Chris Ellis, and Jonathan Lewis have barely had a look. The adjustment from one set to the other depends on the alignment of the Rover. And you can quote me on that shit!" "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby, I wish I could give you more legs. He had a concussion and it hurt our secondary. In his walked out spot, he is reading the backfield triangle to the #2/#3 receiver and has the flat zone weak. HWC? Not every coach could do that. I think the weakness that was exposed by Clemson is that if a team can set up play action by running the ball effectively, the whip and the safeties have to cover their gap fill responsibility before reacting to a pass route. Mr. Hokie Cody Grimm was moved to the secondary (which is funny given that pass coverage was his greatest weakness as a Hokie.) . Clemson started to rise after that game, and we started to fall. Worilds was moved to OLB and by the accounts of Steelers insiders, has struggled with the transition to a 3-4 look. Defensive linemen must be able to stunt and slant while maintaining leverage. I remember the first half of the Stanford OB and watching one of Stanford's 300 lb guards kick out and just flatten Eddie Whitley. A "Bear" front covers both OGs and the Center, making it an Odd front. Virginia Tech Hokies football, basketball, athletics blog and forum featuring: unique columns, breaking news, film studies, in-depth analysis, recruiting, videos and jokes. I admit, I got chills when I read Charley Wiles bullet on defensive line play: "Feet in neutral zone by the time the ball disappears into centers crouch.". While he misses the tackle, he allows enough time for the other players to secure their gap and then pursue to tackle the UVA tailback for a marginal gain. pretty cool to look back on it from time to time. Ideally, the Stud end will be 2 yards deep into the backfield. See Tim Tebow (or Pat White at WVU.) He was on a roll at the start of last season and his recovery is going really well. Each defender essentially has the gap in front of him. Your thoughts please. Tech's attacking eight-man-front scheme, first instituted by Elmassian in 1993, has become one of college . So, I don't think having our DL being smallish gives us a good advantage to counter the GT offense (a la moving our DE in as a DT and then replacing the DE with T. Wilson), since Miami has prototypical NFL DT's and absolutely mauled them at the LOS. In addition to these types of coverage adjustments, there may be front and pressure adjustments made by the defense as well. Tech makes that difficult because there is a hand off of responsibilities as the offense shifts or motions out from one passing strength to another. Eventually, the kids who see the NFL in their future realize that going to such a school hurts their chances. He started 79 games over an 8 year career. Sadly, the wide tackle six approach saw it's end as the Hokies were decimated by sophisticated passing attacks from the 2002 Gator Bowl through Aaron Rodgers legalized murder of the secondary in the 2004 Insight Bowl. I have no doubt this works against the Hokies in recruiting, but Foster also has archetypes he recruits to for his players. Ideally he can maintain leverage without being driven downfield. This allows the players to react instinctively and play with more confidence. Meanwhile, Dwayne Allen would come BEHIND the line against the grain of the play and pop out the weak side. That is a lot for the players to process isnt it? In-Depth Analysis of the Hokies' Bear Defense. Every defensive player in the front seven has a "gap" responsibility in every defense that is called. When the TE switches sides, usually the Backer flips spots with MIKE to cover him. The design of the defense is set up to allow the Mike, Whip, or Stud DE to make the play. Because of how it is designed, it is still strong with Safeties as run-gap fillers off the edges, but because of that they are susceptible to play-action moreso than a true C2 squad. Prior to 2004, the alignment of the linebackers and safeties was based more on the strong side / weak side of the offensive formation. I have not watched any tape of Miami vs Georgia Tech, so I am not sure if they make any specific adjustments from their normal scheme, but they certainly have the Yellow Jackets pegged. With a 2-high safety base set, the Hokies can play a lot of different zone coverages (while still playing man coverage when they want), preventing offenses from dictating match-ups with their personnel groups and formations. The consistent 3 stripes on white was a good look. Billy Hite. Stopping the run is one of the basic tenants of the defensive scheme. It is a scheme that looks complicated, but yet is very simple. BTW, I dont think I've ever seen a gif used as a legit educational tool and not just an lol. . This 4-3, 2-high safety base set gets the defense in a much better pre-snap position to defend offenses that like to use a lot of spread or 3-4 wide formations. Justin Hamilton is in his first year as Virginia Tech's defensive coordinator after serving as safeties coach last year. If the ball is on the hashmark, Rover goes Field side, WHIP to the boundary. . They've only had a few with an NFL frame, and none of them worked out. Anytime you see the mike backer dropping back, it is change up defense hoping the QB throws to a spot without seeing the mike. pretty heavy on stunts and exchanges between the DL and LBs, Clemson Basketball Travels to NC State with Last Hope of NCAA Berth on the Line, Clemson Softball roars to fast start and high rankings. A London Fletcher or Brian Urlacher type linebacker would not be a good fit for the Hokies. In a traditional one gap 4-3 defense, each player in the front seven has the gap in front of them with few exceptions, with examples being a variety of stunts and run blitzes that are run in small proportion to the base calls. Playing more of the defense it ran under former coordinator Bud Foster, the unit turned in a markedly better performance against the high-powered Hurricanes in Saturday's 25-24 loss. The offensive personnel or personnel group is the makeup of offensive skill positions for any given play. Meanwhile, the defensive linemen must be quick enough and flexible enough to slant heavily (sometimes 2 gaps) each way, which lends itself to short, stocky defensive tackles whocan get to a spot then hold their gap responsibility. The Tigers complete their season sweep of the Wolfpack. )jlOkD0 Nzlk}nGr(eancz#pC)vg`gd>fX&qb' h3L88ihTy%B|1ebUX9T ";*KM Youll see how they get away with that in coverage later. What are the differences between what Tech does and a traditional NFL 4-3?? Prior to 2004, the Hokies were primarily an 8-man front defense and everything worked off of that. The Hokies play a base 4-3-4 defense, meaning that there are four defensive linemen, three linebackers and four defensive backs in the base set. Antone Exum is moving forward at the snap, and both Exum and Hosley end up making the tackle along with Luther Maddy. I have no expectations that Antoine will start this year coming off that injury coupled with his history of not being as hard a worker. With the quick passing game made popular through the concepts of the west coast offense, offenses could beat blitzes by going with quick passes to hot receivers and allowing them to use their athletic abilities to gain significant yardage after the catch (YAC). Against an 8-man front, it was difficult for offenses to establish the run because there was generally one defender unaccounted for in the blocking scheme. As some of you may remember, Virginia Tech rose to prominence in the early 90's on the back of elite special teams, a grind-it-out conservative offense, a state of the art weight training program, and most significantly, on the back of a radical defensive approach that took recruits that nobody wanted and turned them loose like the dogs of war on opposing defenses. What's considered non-radical? Bud Foster called this scheme his "attack defense" but the base alignments were 8 man front's following the model of the famed Buddy Ryan 46 defense used by the Bears and Eagles in the 80's. The middle backers have very little pass coverage responsibility, and spend significant time taking on blocks on the interior of a play. Backers and Mikes must be adept at timing blitzes and taking on blocks. That was generally the wide side of the field as well, so the Backer or Rover had to cover a faster, quicker player out in open space. The formation is twins wide, so the passing strength is heavy to the wide side of the field. Gambling problem? Speaking of personnel groups and formations, have you ever wondered what Bud Foster and Charley Wiles are doing with all the hand signals between plays? 20102023, Orange and Maroon Media, LLC. Does the defensive scheme lend itself to this or did we have weaknesses in key positions? I had to go back and read about the defense given how I did not understand all the roles. When fans get their first glimpse of the Hokies this spring, they will see a huge degree of Bud Foster influence in Brent Pry's defensive scheme. Cover 4 is technically a zone defense, but plays like M2M and often ends up looking just like the normal Cover 2 youre used to visualizing. JWG goes to fill the gap, but the tight end takes him off his feet. I have read it many times in the past. It really is an outlier as far as defenses, as much as Paul Johnson's wishbone is on offense. In combination, these adjustments resulted in more big plays against the Tech defense, both in the running game as well as the passing game. H332U(W5RR-T56 )onl ${* 3) Finally, as stated in #2 above, this seems to be a heavy run control D and if we don't have super talented CB's who can cover their man without help we could get burned in the passing game real quick. Bud, a divorcee, married Jessie in February on Super Bowl Sunday, about four months after the hospital scare and around the time discussion began about him retiring. Clemson and Duke are really the only teams I can remember that have attacked Hokie corners and been successful. They are looking at the QB and reading his actions without letting the #1 outside WR get past. TKP, where you get the analysis and the analysis of the analysis by the original analyst, "Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." Note- things I was wrong about when I started this off: A) Backer is to the boundary. As the coaches like to say, it is important that their minds do not tie up their feet. Hopkins was hurt slanting if I remember correctly. The 8-man front, aggressive blitzing style of defense often forced the Hokies to play man coverage across the board with little or no deep help. Looking forward to future articles. He had to make the Rover less a run-defender and more of a full-time DB, a SS in laymans terms. James Anderson is the only Hokie alumni who is a starter in the front 7 of an NFL team. Have no idea how that played into Foster's defense, but he has played and started taller more slender DTs. Based on what you said, don't the DL's all "tie" up the lines in both Bud scheme and the traditional pro-scheme? First, how do they maintain the aggressive variability of the Wide Tackle Six, but second, he wanted to stop the growing use of one back multiple receiver offenses from the West Coast to the Spread. While it's currently a knock that VT hasn't developed NFL linemen, it's more of an inability to recruit them onto campus than anything else. For example, a 21 personnel group is two running backs, one tight end, and two wide receivers. Stanford presents the most unique formula. Maybe an example would work here. MAN. And finally, we will take a look at how all of the calls and adjustments for each play are communicated from the coaches to the players. If those guys don't need much safety help, then the corners can take chances, bait QB's and mix in robber coverages to get turnovers. That would have been tough duty for a guy like Rouse, who was much better suited for the current responsibilities assigned to the Rover (1) back as a deep safety to the boundary side or (2) up at the line of scrimmage as an outside linebacker playing boundary run containment or picking up a tight end in man coverage. Everybody has to be on the same page and know their assignments within the structure of the defense. I will touch on this more when I write my column on the secondary play, but I think because Hokies safeties have been victimized in man coverage so much, that Foster is looking at his safeties having less run support responsibility and being better at coverage, hence the change of putting converted corners at safety. In the seasons that he had great talent, they didn't blitz and stunt as much (the 06 and 07 Hokie defensive highlight films feature much more base defense against the run.). Registered users can participate in the forum, post and vote on comments. He's had only two top-10 defenses this decade, but the Hokies are never weak on his side of the ball . I think they use the same DE rotation as last year, with Wilson and McCray playing every 4th series and Marshall getting some snaps at tackle and end. Aaron Rodgers, Kellen Moore, Andrew Luck all have great skills under pressure. Terms at draftkings.com/sportsbook. The DEs aligned much like they do today with the Stud always to the wide side and the End always to the boundary. They made popular the "G" front and took the 1985 Bears 46 defensive front as a compliment, which Tech would call the "Tuff" package. That sign board on the sideline is a tool that identifies the offensive personnel group. Also, because of the rather shorter depth of the Safeties, you can attack their run reads directly with a vertical route directly at them, like a Post or Go route up the seam. Bud Foster defenses know how to get after the quarterback. VT shifts their G front to the Field side as well into a 4-3, whether its weak or strong, which gives them 3 fronts in the base package. '+,,-/4443.4444444444 Behind the defense, the Hokies secondary plays a basic robber coverage on this play. 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